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ONE PIECE ROBIN-CHOPPER FANBOOK/DOUJINSHI

Journal Entry: Fri Oct 30, 2009, 2:28 AM
I just added a poll (right under) about the price I should ask for it...
Maybe I have to explain further what the project is ?
Okay.

I will finish the pages in a few months and then print about 1000 copies with my own money.

So, it's a big risk I take because in France, unfortunately, printing is not cheap.

I decided to make the whole thing in english: international language, so I should sell it around the world.
I'm still looking for the best deal I can find... but the thing I don't know is: How many people would like to buy this and for how much ?

Damn... this is distressing... I don't feel like I'm a businessman.



Anyway, the book will be 46 pages + softcover, full color, in A5 format (148x210 mm / 5.8x8.3 inch), square-glued binding fashioned (I don't know if it's the good way to say it but you understand what I mean, right ? ... right ?)

The content is Hentaï, real stuff I mean: big penis, intercourse, close-ups, lots of fluids graphic dispertion... Yay.

I will open a website dedicated to promote and sell the books online, with some previews and original material...

... meanwhile, I will add some finished pages to this folder ( kiwine.deviantart.com/gallery/… ) soon.

Well... feel free to ask anything you want, I need that to be able to think straight.

Thanks !

  • Mood: Horny
  • Listening to: my inner voices... SHADDAP !
  • Eating: alprazolam
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:iconmalikstudios:
MalikStudios Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2013  Professional General Artist
Is this done yet?
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:icongundalboy:
GundalBoy Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The book is not finished yet ???
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:iconbluedemon13:
BlueDemon13 Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the anatomy in your art (is sexy, hot and hot again) I will buy it for 20$ USA
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:iconeilitheilith:
eilitheilith Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
Nice to meet you. Hello.

Has this doujinshi been completed?

How can I obtain this?

On which website do you sell it?

I am sorry in poor English.
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:iconmtmind714:
mtmind714 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010
just wondering if you finished yet and if so how can i get a copy
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:icondreamhaunt:
dreamhaunt Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll deffo buy this ! Especially if it's a downloaded version.
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:iconvamptod:
vamptod Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i want to buy a download version trough paypal is that possible?!
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2010  Professional Artist
I'm thinking about that option to sell it but the book isn't finished yet, anyway. =3
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:iconvamptod:
vamptod Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ow ok when you come up with that option i will sure buy it :D!
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:icontarabananachien:
Tarabananachien Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2009
Tu peux m'ajouter dans le lot sans hésiter pour un bouquin entre 15 et 20 $
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:iconsterna:
sterna Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Bon quand est-ce que c'est pret ton affaire lààà ?!
n'hésite pas à revenir vers moi, que je precommande.
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:iconcloud9389:
cloud9389 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2009
I can't wait to buy a copy! When will it be released?
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:iconshtl:
shtl Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Euh, t'es pas censé payer des droits à l"éditeur? En france c'est pas légale je pense. Genre si la distribution en france est chez telle maison (inutile de les cité ;) ), ils risquent pas de te tomber sur les miches? Je crois comprendre qu'au japon c'est "légale", mais c'est pas les même chiffres, c'est ça?
Si c'est le cas, gaf quand même quoi ;)

Sinon black-ketmar...
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:iconkevinsano:
kevinsano Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I dunno, $15-ish for a downloadable version?
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:iconhageshiku:
hageshiku Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2009
If you're printing in English it's an easy sell to me. 1000 copies is pretty limited, are you going to open up reserves maybe?
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:iconbloodfx:
Bloodfx Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2009
Please keep us informed, I'm so buying this as soon as it is out! So keep us in the loop!
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:iconnenee:
nenee Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
:dance::dance: Yeah!! european doujin!!! :dance::dance:well done:heart: I love doujins^^:star:

I would pay for your full color pages, 20e. for sure ;) I buy japanese ones with 40 black&white pages for 15-25e at Ebay (check prices there) Doujin Anthologies (140p) are sold by 45-60e.

I wanted to do doujins too but looking for printers, something like [link] doesn't' print "fanart-doujin" :rage: or hentai content :rage: because of American copyrights laws. Frustrating:sad: (but I've found doujins in its online catalogue, I don't understand)

At the other hand, shipping prices is another big problem. Hope in France prices are competitive worldwide (they're not in Spain).

But you're a notorious artists,with great skills. Sure you'll be able to sell 1000copies. And hentai doujins have a big market :giggle:

:star::star::star:Wishing you lot of luck and good sellings!! keep up inform us!:dance::star::star::star:
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:iconexcelsiorian:
excelsiorian Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2009
I will most definitely buy a copy. In fact I'll go so far as to say anything you publish in english I will buy!
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:iconcraz-k:
CRaZ-K Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2009
I'll buy this for 30! your art is amazing i cant wait to see it finished XD
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:iconlepasbeau:
lepasbeau Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2009
quand ou comment sera t'il disponible, pré;payé naturellement
mais ou!?
tu devrais faire comme pour les musiquos en ligne ex: Grégoire, si tu comprend de quoi je parle!
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:iconfst1979:
fst1979 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2009
$20 jusqu'a $30, je suis sur que ca vaudrait la peine.
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:iconsleepysleeps:
sleepysleeps Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2009
$20 bucks sounds reasonable to me.
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:iconzimra-art:
zimra-art Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Je précommande, je précommande (si/quand ce sera possible) ! trop contente que tu le finisses ce doujin, j'ai hâte de le lire *ç*
Bon courage !
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2009  Professional Artist
Merci, Miss ! ^3^
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:icontchutch:
tchutch Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009
Count me too (France) ! Can't wait :)
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:iconlocal-chan:
local-chan Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2009
Well I'd definitely pay more than $20 myself. Hell. I'd pay $50 XD
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:iconblack--sword:
Black--Sword Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2009
First of all good luck with this project man. I hope that you are promoting this book in all the sites available out there, a.e. Hentai foundry, SAnkaku complex, Fakku.net, Danny choo.com, etc. You're taking a big risk, I really wish that you get a good experience out at this. Best of luck to you buddy!
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
I will do that !
Thanks, man !
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:iconposoon:
posoon Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2009
Mets m'en un de côté !!!!! ^v^
tes 1000 exemplaires vont partir en quelques semaines, ne t'en fais pas, et vu que je gère une page qui t'est dédiée sur facebook avec plus d'une centaine de fans, je passerai le message pour que ton stock parte fissa!
tu as raison d'essayer l'auto édition, la diffusion via un bon réseau sur le net ne posera pas de souci vu ta côte.

lolo
PS: j'ai pourtant diffusé ton appel au boycott du n°trantkat, mais voilà, Astérix est de retour .... sic
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:icondarax:
darax Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2009
J'ai mis 20$, soit 15€ en conv... C'est un peu cher par rapport au prix d'un fanzine normal, mais je pense que ça vaut ce prix là...
Par contre je suis surpris que ce soit en couleur... Je trouvais le boulot d'encrage tellement cool que je ne m'attendais pas à ce que ce soit en plus colorisé derrière...
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
Au dé;part, c'était pour le fanzine de Fafah et Béber... qui est en quadri et je devais me faire aider, mais une fois de plus, j'ai tué le coloriste... bref... du coup c'est en couleurs néanmoins.

Merci Dara ! =3
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:iconalexkina:
alexkina Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2009
Est-ce que tu penses que c'est possible de te payer ensuite et ensuite d'envoyer la version scanner?
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
Désolé, je n'ai pas compris la question... mais ce qui est sûr c'est qu'il faudra payer avant de recevoir le bouquin... =3
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:iconj-squared:
J-Squared Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009  Hobbyist Filmographer
Count me In if your shipping to usa then you can garentee ill pay 20-25 bucks for it.

How ever 1000 is a lot. if your gonna sell them to book shops then maybe. but to sell 1000 over the net by yourself. . .

I would start off at maybe 200-300 copies. and if the first 200 go fast then you can go into a second printing after you know how well they will sell

but yeah! cant wait!
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
I can't do less than 1000 copies if I want a good quality/price bargain... that's the thing.

Thanks !
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:iconj-squared:
J-Squared Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Hobbyist Filmographer
oh dang. then if that's you're only choice then the big thing would be to sell as many as you can as fast as you can.
cause the one big thing you should fear is scanners.

eventually SOMEONE will scan it and share it. at that point a lot of people will have no need to purchase it anymore cause its for free online.

you're stuff is good enough to a point where that will be a problem
=/

as much as i CANT WAIT to own my own hard copy. have you ever thought of releasing it as a digital download? Digital is just as easy to share but at least you would save on printing price.

I shouldn't have really said that though cause i really want a hard copy =P

tough call either way.
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smilefortyeight Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009
Willing to pay fifteen Euros, or twenty US dollars. Extra for shipping would be fine. (What I REALLY want is a copy of that HK comic, French or no, because what I saw of it was gorgeous.)

Will you be taking Paypal for this?
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
I will only take paypal.

I'm trying to pull strings to publish an english version of HK... Wait and see...

Thanks !
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:iconthegnartist:
TheGNARTIST Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009
is it chopper fucking robin only
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
And vice versa... yeah, at 90%
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:iconthegnartist:
TheGNARTIST Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009
wait nico gets a dick
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
Er ?
For you, women can just "get fucked" ?
No, she fucks him as well as he fucks her, I mean, she wants him, she's not raped by him... I don't know if I make myself clear ?
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:iconthegnartist:
TheGNARTIST Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009
uh?
no there's just a whole lot of fucked up shit in japanese related comicery!
yeah now you do thanx
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
Hehe, true !
Okay, then... you're welcome ! =3
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:iconretrohelix:
Retrohelix Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009
Have you considered dividing this up into 3 books or something? That way if you're lucky and get enough money from the first one you can go ahead and print the rest.

Or you can try a DIY and get yourself one of them Canon poster printers, I think they're called pixma or something, and get the paper online and print your own booklets =/
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:icongenocyber:
genocyber Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd buy it in a heartbeat.20 bucks is a fair price.
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silent252000 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009
Really looking forward to this!

But before you start, make sure you have a good idea of what the copyright laws in the EU/France are like for this. Nothing is worse than spending several thousand on printing and then receiving a letter from a lawyer telling you need to destroy them all or be sued. If the EU copyright laws are like the US, going forward with this may be very risky. Most doujin of popular series are illegal in Japan, but there, the publishers turn a blind eye to the whole market. They don't do anything about it because they see it as free advertising and as a breeding ground for new talent to draw upon. Several artist I know that tried this in the US were shut down fast after receiving cease and desist letters from the copyright holder's lawyer.

If you do go ahead, you may want to look at having the book published in another country. One artist friend told me it was cheaper for him to print a book in Japan and have it shipped to the US than have it printed in the US. With the Euro being quite strong, it may actually cut the costs of the book quite a bit.
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:iconkiwine:
kiwine Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009  Professional Artist
I don't think Shueisha will bother me, since doujinshi market in Japan is full of these...

I'll look for being printed in japan or china... that's a good idea, thanks !
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:iconsilent252000:
silent252000 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2009
Good luck! =D

I wait eagerly with money in hand.
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:iconcaptkiro:
captkiro Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
just market your stuff on dA people will buy it just keep it in your journal.
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